Hello! We tell local Austin news & weather stories, and we do what we do to make Austin, Round Rock, Georgetown, Dripping Springs, Bastrop and the rest of Central Texas a better place to live. Theres no way to prove everything that was actually said. They need to ask forgiveness and repent like all sinners need too do. Just my two cents. It isnt love to just not disagree with someone. What a terrible way to talk about Good Friday., http://www.holmeslybrand.com/culture/2017/4/21/jen-hatmaker-please-stop. Good question. My friend Brett Trapp pointed out several things that we have no unity on . If you dont agree with it, then say so-though your wrong to disagree with it- but dont say something isnt there when it is. Self justification can take many forms. Im so sick of the whole Christian hippie thing. As a pastor I realize that people in churches are now being taught the meaning of the Bible mainly on-line, through sermons, blogs, tv shows, and books, probably more than personal dialogue on Sunday mornings or in small groups, or over coffee with me or other leaders, whose ministries are disciple-making. JM updates facebook Left Job at Free Methodist Church USA November 1: BH affirms his JHs position on FB. Sunday, May 28, 2022 Ascension Day. Questions: 1,863 were here. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. Of course not! I normally see this belief system among my fellow women and with weak men. Oscar nominee Austin Butler and model girlfriend Kaia Gerber were "making out all night" at W Magazine's annual "Best Performances" party over the weekend, spies told Page Six . Focus on immaterial things I shouldnt have to spell it out. To understand Paul you *must* read Romans 1 and 2 as a single argument; after all, Romans 2 begins with Therefore. When I asked Jen if she would private message me so I could respond privately about my concerns on same sex marriage, she never did. Im trying to get some clarity on your point Trish. And you know I respect you, right? And if you think Im exaggerating, recall John Pipers incendiary tweet Farewell, Rob Bell, written in response to Bells book Love Wins. I have been in the conservative church for over half a century, and Im getting to the point where I feel that if the conservative church wants to exclude me, then so be it. When someone makes a public teaching, you are free to engage with that teaching and rebut it. Be and example yourself, I think you should read the Bible: Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. And Ive heard Rob Bell speak movingly about the cruel and unusual punishment meted out by his evangelical brothers.. But with grace and love and patience and forbearance and all the fruit of the spirit all is the arsenal of the believer. But that also shouldnt stop us from loving one another. But yes, darn it, we really do need a theology of sexuality. Deli studied . I believe the scriptures provide much more grace for a needy sinner including homosexuals. All. However, one thing Jesus never did was condone their sin. Any more specific position is an interpretation.. you are not God. Showtimes. $99.99 + $18.10 shipping. http://www.sptsusa.org/not-my-kid/. How do you think that friend of mine justifies his belief? If he refuses to listen to the church, treat him like a Gentile or a tax collector. Anyone who writes a damning or imperious or condescending comment on their blog is only showing they have no such concern for the person. I very much liked the quotations this article ends with. The Bible implores us to reason with one another, and Paul reasoned with the crowds from the Scriptures to prove Jesus as messiah. Religion is bull$hit. Saying that a certain act is not a sin, is the same as saying that I dont need Jesus to wash away my sins.. Someone who struggles with homosexual sin and constantly takes it to the cross of Christ, falls and gets back up seven more times is in a much better position gospel-wise than somebody who self-justifies their sin theologically. As I said before, EVERYONE deserves respect and for people to be treated bad by parents or anyone else is just wrong-that is not Christian either. But I know that God is on His throne and showing us the true Kingdom at hand, and it doesnt look like what we thought it would. You write a blog slamming evangelical Christians, and in that blog state if you disagree with someone you should approach them individually rather than publicly as in a blog. We should love every one but never condone sin. Thanks, man. During this time when many in the church are embracing a worldly view on sexuality and being influenced more by the opinions of the culture than by the Word of God, those who have the Word of God as a priority are genuinely concerned about syncretism in the church with Hollywood values and agenda. The old you have to be tolerant of my intolerance argument. In our sins sexual and otherwise, God intervened! What has happened to jen is not great! It will teach and encourage the practice of wisdom and holiness: finding our happiness and fulfilment is about coming to a right understanding of who we are, and what it means to be mature human being in terms of vulnerability as well as potential. Great food for thought. Frankly, I cant believe we even are having a conversation about this. Jesus did say Burn thine enemies to the ground when they disagree with you. Do you? Paul wrote about some people who were going to temple orgies in Corinth. I belong to a small Baptist denomination in Australia. Whatever that sin is, we have to turn. Both sides!). People arent aware. 1BN-General. Constricting.Simulating.Seekin Praise His holy, beautiful name. I was beginning to thing that all Christians were self-appointed judges. Im out of the loop, but it seems to me that the comments are illustrating the point of the blog. In empathy with both the Pro & Anti rhetoric about Personalities in Leadership, this smacks a bit of ideological differences of political alignment. If people are pointing to the Son who died for our sins that we deserved, so that we might be right before God (2 Cor 5:21), then there is no issue. And just for reference, you cited Matthew 21:12 which you claimed to read again. I dont think there is a hard and fast rule on this. Its all about whether you believe the word as literally Gods words or not. When do people get to day sin is okay and not get reprimanded. When any one says any sin is okay then they are wrong. New Releases. Let them be the fire and one day, there will be nothing left to burn. Do you believe in predestination? If you believe that, you need to reread that passage and see for what the whip was used. We must as Evangelicals now learn, in the 21st Century, to be at least as good and wise as Nicodemus, who was willing to go to Jesus in private. They believe that in order to be saved, you have to be baptizedits a requirement. She knew this was going to be controversial and she chose to go forward because she felt strongly about it. Do I wish God would lighten up on his sexual ethic? Yet, I find myself sobbing in my back yard as I listen, hoping no one hears . Jesus gives the guy a list of commands to keep, and then he tells him, If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me. (NASB) Jesus was very clearly telling the guy how to inherit eternal life. Is that a strict standard? What you arent wanting to hear is a calm, sincere appeal to Biblical truths. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. The only difference is that no specifics are given on who is doing this, except for Piperwhich itself is doing exactly what we are being not to do. Does the pushing some people out of Gods Grace, shaming especially the most historically vulnerable, BRING people to faith, into a relationship with the Loving God? Metropolitan Baptist Church, Bloomington, MN - 3.1.23 Wednesday Evening 7:30 PMMetropolitan Baptist ChurchBloomington, MNPastor Austin Wartner Slow down and show love to someone that may be hurting. I think its important, when considering Matt 18s instruction, to keep in mind how Jesus treated gentiles and tax collectors. Im convinced that Paul was the first hippie and Jesus was a hardliner who called people to even higher standards than the Law of Moses. This surely is something many evangelicals would agree with. The Scriptures are very clear that predestination exists, yet there are millions of believers who dont believe in it. Id rather be wrong in affirming my friends who are LGBT than have to attend their funerals because they killed themselves due to the hateful type of rhetoric youve put out here. When you read Romans 1 and 2 together intelligently as one argument, you see that his whole point is that the people who are judging others are the ones in sin. The best place to confront false teaching is on Sundays from the pulpit (like in Pauls letters which were meant to be read to a local church) and in personal discussion, where real Q & A dialogue can happen. Lots of talk of RELIGION-not FAITH Samantha Beach Kiley is a writer and performer, and the creative arts pastor at Austin New Church in Austin, Texas. only God can judge. Jesus did say those who are WITHOUT sin, cast the first stone. I believe Jesus did not say you may shame people if your sin is not worse than otherssin. Sin has marred things, yes, but this is Gods original and only design of the marriage covenant. Its kind and helpful. I was super bummed out by most of the comments. And discribes a very good process. Christians normally reserve the word heresy for serious doctrinal error that strikes at core doctrines of the faith, doctrines considered foundational like Trinity etc. God allowed polygamy, rape victims being forced to marry their rapists, soldiers being allowed to keep women as spoils or war, brothers marrying sisters. I never did post anything publicly about my concerns with her stance, but she never did message me privately so I could have a conversation with her. NO sin is okay with God, from the way you lust in your mind about someone walking by you down the street or when you utter even the smallest curse against someone in your mind (Jesus said those crimes are adultery and murder, respectively). States Being informed invites the Spirit to lead, reduces our defensiveness, and gives us the confidence to love better. However, most respectful Facebook comments arguing for traditional viewpoints are deleted. God comes first. 7:30 pm Primary Purpose - IN-PERSON. She also said she attempted suicide. The couple founded the Austin, Texas, based church along with Legacy Collective, a community foundation aiming to find sustainable housing, prevent child trafficking and provide health care. Healthy religion gives confidence to embrace the stranger and insights that are available from those with a different experience of life. Do you not judge those who are inside? Later compilers did that. We cant offer the grace of Christ with a lie attached. Burnt toast actually. Correction to above: That is, as one man and one woman? Should have read That is, as being expressed fully in marriage between one man and one woman?. I am sorry read your bible! Maybe if someone doesnt want to be attacked for their seemingly unorthodox views, especially when one is a public figure, they should keep their views privately. But to God? Ive been reading it for many, many years. Not a single Christian thinks that a repentant sinner should be excluded from the Grace of God that is a strawman argument created by less-than-honest people with an agenda. the spirit of the world is dark, indeed. The gospel of Jesus is the core of our faith. They are encouraging. JM: Jason Morriss, primary teaching pastor and elder at ANC, employed by the Free Methodist Church to serve at ANC since 2013, previously of Joel Osteens Lakewood Church in Houston Im late to this article but I totally agree with you Sheri-its time we as TRUE Bible believing Christians start telling it like it is-and if these heretics-and that is what they are-go public-and any preacher is public really, whether online or preaching in their church-why then shouldnt we go public? BHs Facebook profile describes himself as Author. 20,804 Hoda Kotb's lengthy 'Today' show absence finally explained If one is dealing with public preaching its irrelevant. Are you saying Jesus sinned by chasing the money changers out of the temple? Youre at church to get help for any kind of sin not just this one, not to have it smiled upon so that no one will be offended. To say that this was some kind of clue to the fact that people are born certain ways regarding homosexuality is twisting this verse. Even our own. Never about homosexuality. If you have the right to ask me hard questions, dont I have the right to ask some of you?, Beautiful, Mike. My faith in God is deep. The only concern I have about this is there is a difference in my view of confronting personal sin, or solving a personal conflict (which has a biblical process as to prevent gossip and slander); and confronting a public teaching. Eternally wrong. Not only is it a revisioned and repurposed music venue, it is also home to Austin New Church, a variety of 12-step programs & support groups, an award winning after school care program, and a progressive and inclusive Latino faith community. Frank, I have great difficulty taking seriously anything said by someone who refers to an eternal truth from the Bible. I so agree with your point about how we handle disagreement in evangelicalism. Maybe pull your head out of your ass and realize that God would rather see people happy than have a tenth of the population relegated to loneliness and eventual rebellion against God. If we are gonna be gatekeepers and decide who is in and who is out, why do we ignore so many other passages and only pay attention to the six verses that are considered the clober verses. This is blasphemy pure and simple, to say they felt told this. If a sweet grandmother comes walking out of church and I kick her in the shins, she will probably react. Post-Bulletin, Austin MN. Cant we allow all of us to wrestle with our positions on all sorts of matters without feeling a need to correct? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Farewell Jen Hatmaker: the brutality of unhealthy religion, Its perfectly natural, not perfectly biblical, to desire the death penalty, A tale of two Christianities on its knees. To me this is just one more instance of tolerance being a one way street. If so, how will you justify that to him? March 26: Remaining elders, including BH, re-affirm the affirming position first announced to ANC via the internet interview. Im going to respond to just your first sentence. She and her husband planted Austin New Church in an economically and ethnically diverse . PLEASE let conservative evangelicals continue to build walls and isolate themselves from the rest of society. I know lots of sincere believers who practice infant baptism. The protectors of orthodoxy appear to have drawn a bead on her as they did on Rachel Held Evans, Rob Bell and Brian McLaren before her. (implication: she deserves to be shunned and humiliated). Hey Monica Don;t throw us all under the bus ouch! They are for you to follow. So I enjoy beer, whisky, and alcohol; but have never been drunk a day in my life (dont know what it even feels like to be drunk). These people should NOT be leaders in teaching other Christians. Any affront to the gospel is heresy. If they dont like it, they dump it. I lay no claim whatever to being more healthy or loving than anyone else quite the opposite. A church that brought me to Christ for the first time in my life, helped my family know and love God, led by a truly honest, good man, just vanished. A church plant in 2008, our church has been nomads in a myriad of locations in the South Austin area. Yours is the only comment on this blog that makes any sense to me. Jesus didnt die for the sins of the world so we could allow people to keep sinning. After six years of growth, mature budget, people growing in Christ, we had three to four couples in our church create their pack, circled the wagons, and made sure that at the cost of unity in the body of Christ that they were going to exude their spiritual superiority at any cost. The C-List celebrity world you pursued comes with its pluses and minuses. According to James 1:27, Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.. Ive had to distance myself from several in the Christian community where I live following character assassination and some harassment. I begged these people to stop and shared with them how it was affecting me and my staff. In my view, heresy is anything that keeps someone from falling into the arms of Jesus and His grace. Not as burnt toast. I know a guy with a Phd from a very conservative seminary who loves Jesus with all his heart, but he doesnt believe the earth was created in six days. May God have mercy on these trespasses and may we all look to Gospel, with its truth and hope, and follow hard after it. But I dont wish on my worst enemy the pain that I, my family, Rob Bell, McLaren, or Jen Hatmaker have gone through. Will you explain that that was okay back then but not now? If you come to faith in a Church of Christ service, they will often baptize you on the spot, lest you die in a car wreck on the way home and go to hell. You sound like someone born of self intellect masked in biblical references.you dont sound like Jesus, you sound like a Pharisee, overeducated and pious. If so, arent you being terribly arrogant to say that you can have that but others cant? I also smoke pipes and cigars occasionally, I feel the same way with this as well. Matthew 10:34-39 NKJV. One is the leaven of the Pharisees, one is the leaven of the Herodians, both are an affront to the gospel. This blog post is corrective, but it is not hateful. Important conversations, yes, but the Holy Spirit is the one that convicts and leads us into truth, not emotion, not anger, not verbal tirades. Stop posting if you wish to avoid correction or unfounded hatred. Thanks for a great post Michael wisdom and love together. Do you practice that yourself? But those who are outside God judges. Austin New Church (ANC) Back to Meetings. Uh-oh, it looks like its Jen Hatmakers turn. Yes, Ryan, that is Gods plan. Plain and simple. We skip over the times God commissions his people to kill in his name. Let them be consumed by it. In your pursuit of eternal life, have you sold all your possessions and given them to the poor and if not, how do you justify that? Entire nationsmen, women, and childrenwere slaughtered this way. When a practicing homosexual hears that his sin is not actually a sin, it keeps that practicing homosexual from repentance, forgiveness, and freedom found in the grace of Yeshua. What a obnoxious way to be. He also loved sinners into the kingdom rather than condemn them. He gave one hard and fast litmus test: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself. No, Jesus didnt specifically say armed robbery is wrong, but it harms your neighbor. There is a time and place for calling people out, but we have lost our heart when it comes to being good examples of how to resolve conflict. No, Jesus didnt specifically say that polluting the earth is wrong, but it shows disdain to God who created it. I cant speak for all of Jens critics, but yes, a person with a platform that reaches millions of souls is important and it matters that they are presenting the right Gospel without wavering, and naturally people, myself, included, believe and want this Gospel to be clearly proclaimed no matter the cost. Jen Hatmaker and her husband, Brandon, pastor Austin New Church in Texas. 5/22/22 ANC 5-22-2022 Sunday Live Service ANC 5-22-2022 Sunday Live Service. I couldnt take it any longer and chose to resign. But He didnt. Marriage is defined by the song of creation in Genesis, bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh, man and woman. Thanks for those two references for healthy faith/church/religion. The reason Jesus doesnt talk about a same-sex marital covenant is because such a thing doesnt exist in the Bible. Writers love to do this and then proclaim, Look! This wealthy guy asks Jesus how he can gain eternal life. Get Directions . It is a gospel issue. I love the teachings and have met all of the offenders you have mentioned. Share. I listen, but I no longer debate their criticisms and small mindedness. That being said, the rise of the celebrity Christian/social commentator/preacher seems to exacerbate many of the issues Mike draws attention to. Its tiring to read all these comments urging us to root out heresy (as if Jen Hatmaker is a heretic). THE definition of Christian marriage is in the Bible, beginning in Genesis. http://bible.com/114/mrk.10.6-9.nkjv. 19:12). It is one of my favorite stories. Forgive. But dont you see that disagreement doesnt immediately mean hate? But if a person is a reviler someone who is rude, denigrates others, makes fun of them or tries to make them look small then we should keep away. Please read Chapter 33 of the esteemed Hebraist Joel Hoffmans The Bible Doesnt Say That, on Homosexuality. My PCA friends love John Calvin, Martin Luther, et al. Yours just ignoring the facts otherwise. Or the only one you care about? Paul himself did not break up his letters into chapters and verses. But its only Johns account that mentions the whip in 2:15. Rae, hes not slamming anyone. Hey, Im not saying conservative evangelicalism is as bad as Jonestown, but I do know this: once the pack starts circling an identified victim theres very little stopping it. And if they give you an unsatisfactory answer, do you disfellowship them or consider them apostate? I am ok if any of you disagree with me. In the Nicene Creed, Christians declare our belief in the four key attributes of the church when we say, [We believe] in one, holy, catholic. If you work on the Sabbath, how do you justify that? The festival welcomes and encourages artists from any discipline to join us in a week-long celebration of student-led performance. Its just so obvious that the creator God made man for man. It has left me confused and weary. ChatGPT has got some preachers spooked. Biker. Such a natural fit. If it is sin, theological self-justification is an affront to the cross. Other indicators include: I think what conservative evangelicals do to their brothers and sisters who come to different views to theirs is a clear mark of unhealthy religion. We cant receive grace from something we dont actually believe is a sin. Its just an error. What comes to mind is what God said when his people were sacrificing their children to Baal and Moloch: It never even entered my mind though He never gave the explicit command in the Law, Thou shall not sacrifice your children, we know its wrong. Online. Tuesday. Call off the attack dogs. At what point, in your thinking, does the church get involved? Not someones opinion who, based on the limited comments on this post, appear to be more than a little arrogant. Over the wall you go, Rob Bell. Well, the opposite. Home Blog Farewell Jen Hatmaker: the brutality of unhealthy religion. I would also ask, why do we tolerate certain sins in ourselves and others? We have to look at all the Bible to draw our conclusions. (Matt. Science maybe? Even if he didnt mention the sin in specific cases in order to call the person out of a bad image of themselves into an image of someone who is loved, he still didnt condone sin and redefine what sin was. Come be part of what God is doing." Only confirmation bias and not cultural context could bring you to a 1st century Jewish Rabbi quoting poetry from the Hebrew scripture meaning anything about monogamous, consensual, same-sex relationships. 2:24. It is never correct to say any sin is okay. And how could the writer possibly individually approach all Christians with a message he feels is important? One conservative blogger referred to wounded wolves who prey on their followers to lead them astray. thanks, Yes, and you should NEVER chase them with a whip. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Octocer 25: JH interviewed by Jonathan Merritt which affirms her belief that gay marriage can be holy. It was a good article. Sin must be known as it is. Thats why you go first alone, then take a witness or two and finally tell the church. Specialties: Our dream is to have an increasingly positive impact on the South Austin Community. Hair style and food choice, andso many other abominations are overlooked. Furthermore, did you know that the Biblical Sabbath is on Saturday, not Sunday? They practice infant baptism (sprinkling), though thats not clearly a thing we see demonstrated in the Bible. People often say things are facts based only on their opinions and interpretations but saying theyre absolute eternal truths? Directed by Colm Bairad. I must be very removed from online evangelical chatter. Jesus didnt talk about sexually abusing children. No opposing historical views included. My belief is, Love Christ, Love each other and pray for wisdom. All your big words back there managed to give the vague impression that it was an actual denial of the Gospel. Where did Jesus say anything about polluting the environment, or armed robbery? Grow up, Hatmaker. Once the congregation saw what happened, the church shut down three weeks after my resignation. Paul had no qualms about naming names and confronting false doctrines and false apostles by name in his letters. That includes naming the ones doing the teaching. He also said marriage was between a man and a woman only. And in a case where these well-known teachers, who are influencers of millions of the church, appear to err in their teaching, is it appropriate for those familiar with them to call them to repentance publicly? It does not hurt me or my neighbor, and I dont believe that love is a sin against God. And Im not suggesting that religious leaders shouldnt debate and discuss their concerns when members (or fellow leaders) appear to contradict or challenge these beliefs. How bad does it have to get? Well, one things for certain, it will be far worse for you for raising the issue than it will for anyone in leadership thats doing the sinning. If they say something a number of us disagree with, and do so publically, maybe we can disagree from beneath that is, with a profound sense of our own brokenness and need of Christs Grace-full touch? He just wasnt talking about that. However its the false teaching she is spreading that homosexuality is not a sin which deserves sharp rebuke. These are conversations for Christians about Christian doctrine, also. I think most Christians would agree with that. She already said 2. I dont know the answer, but Jesus was public in his condemnation plenty of times too. Maybe youre PCA, and if so, I would ask you how you justify the idea of salvation through grace alone when verses like Matthew 7:21, Romans 2:13, and James 2:24 show very clearly that works are a part of it. These reflect ACTIONS of FAITH. []. It is neither your job nor your ability to call out someone elses sin. I Corinthians 5:11-13 NKJV Next up: ad hominen attacks on anyone that considers LGBT lifestyles anathema to a faith-driven life. MaintainingContaining I can agree that some Christians do not handle differences well, and that problems are handled in some with gossip, slander and unbiblical methods of correction. It is a pattern of sin emanating from our wicked hearts. Romans 1 is very very clear. Not worth attempting to reason with. If you think the person is sinning, that is something to engage privately. To promote some other Christ is, yes, blasphemy, and it is false. However, if you are saying that it is sin, but teaching theological self-justification is not false doctrine, its being double-minded. Wilshire Baptist Church, a Dallas-area congregation, voted in 2016 to extend full membership to homosexually active people, including leadership ordination and marriage officiation. When superstar Christians promote that agenda, in many peoples minds, it just increases the tendency towards this syncretism and there is genuine concern. In response to Ben, below, it aint necessarily so. I have. Not only are they repudiating her views on various issues (especially on same-sex marriage), but theyre even attacking her for daring to express the pain that all this criticism is causing her. 16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others with you, so that at the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. To them, the Scriptures are clear on this issue, and they think the rest of us are in error by treating Sunday like a Sabbath. The gospel is the gospel. They dont view her as a sister. Shes toast in their eyes. I think this whole article is buffoonery. Frost presumed some sort of good will in the likes of Hatmakers condemners. Frankly, I've always taken my son to Target in his Batman costume and let my daughter wear a leotard and boots to church. How did a blog post calling into question the way that conservative Christians attack each other descend into comments by Christians (Im assuming) attacking each other about SSM? ), I did this once with Jared WIlson when he blog-quoted Doug Wilson on dominance and submission in the marriage bed. I had a woman tell me just today that she prayed and prayed and God did not take away her lesbianism. So many people never find Christ because they cant follow the rigid teachings of so many well intentioned Christians. I do agree with Mike, Surely, if you think a person is guilty of teaching or promoting heresy your primary motivation would be to want to correct that person and restore them to orthodox faith. Truth from the rest of society a conversation about this, to keep sinning a or. 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